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26th-May-2015 05:02 pm
I'm having a really hard time starting this entry, because I'm not sure what to write about. But the best way to write something anyway is to write something anyway, so here I am. Kodansha posted to Facebook today with their new releases, and nothing we translated made the cut so we were sad. But we checked Anime News Network's release list for this week anyway, because maybe something we translate for Yen Press hit the shelves, and lo and behold, there was My Little Monster 8!

...But as I was typing that paragraph, it occurred to us that ANN doesn't always get the memo when release dates are changed, so we just checked Amazon, and My Little Monster's been put off until next week. Boo! But at least that means the Kodansha Facebook poster wasn't discriminating against it, so that's good at least. Less good is that nothing we translated for Yen Press was released today, either, which means we won't be posting any reviews this week, alas.

That's kind of an extra bummer, because we'll be staying at Disneyland late to watch the fireworks tomorrow. That should be good news for us (I'm a little skeptical about the new fireworks show), but it's bad news for any hope we have of conversing with the outside world. ...Unless we, like, actually talk to real people in real life at Disneyland. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but...

Anyway. We've been thinking about how twins are portrayed in the media. Anybody got any good recommendations of stuff with twins that we can read or watch for research purposes? Not that we have time to do such research, but it could happen! Of course we're already familiar with Harry Potter, and Ouran High School Host Club, and The Suite Life of Zack & Cody, and Avengers: Age of Ultron. We read a review of Age of Ultron that talked about how it was good that Pietro was orbiting around Wanda and not vice versa, and we thought, "Why does one of them have to be orbiting the other?" and then we wondered if it was a common thing in portraying twins in the media. Of course, as twins, we have more to say on the subject, but maybe not much more, hence the potential research.

And now I just remembered that we've had a request to tell the story of how we learned Japanese. I'm typing that here in the hopes that the act of typing it will help me remember to do that in the near future.

Today I'm thankful for being done with work for the day, getting to watch a lot of great anime yesterday (only Hamatora was new to us, but Arslan and Sailor Moon (and Danny Phantom) remain awesome), confirming that the Danny Phantom movies are part of the Hulu lineup, having plans to see Disneyland's new fireworks show, and having time to do some fun stuff tonight.
27th-May-2015 12:30 am (UTC)
Actually, Brandon and Brenda in "Beverly Hills 90210" were supposed to be fraternal twins, although this mostly seemed to be used as an excuse for them to both be in the same year in high school. (This series notoriously stretched out the characters' tenure at West Beverly Hills High School by having one of the guys wake up at the beginning of season four and say something like, "Wow, I dreamed that we all had our junior year last year instead of starting it today!") The whole "orbiting around each other" thing never came up at all on that show, as far as I recall. Both twins had strong personalities and were difficult to push around. Although I suppose some people might argue that the fact that Brenda was more apt to prioritize popularity over studying, and to occasionally do irresponsible things like running off to Mexico for the weekend with her boyfriend when she didn't even have a passport (somehow she didn't think she'd need one to get back into the U.S.), was a reaction against Brandon's usually more conscientious and upright behavior--although that could be true of non-twin brothers and sisters as well. About the only "typically" twinny thing about this pair was that both their names started with the same letter.

There are also ten- or eleven-year-old identical girl twins in some 1960's or '70's Gothic romance novel by Mary Stewart (I think). Their names were Hyson and Lowella, which were apparently supposed to be traditional Cornish names (the novel was set in Cornwall)--Hy and Lo for short. The heroine was their governess.

Oh, and two of the protagonist's main rivals in volume two or three of the "Food Wars" manga are boy/boy fraternal twins who look nothing alike. (This may be partially explained by the fact that they're half Japanese and half Italian, though they grew up in Italy and have now been sent to Japan to attend a prestigious private culinary-arts high school there.) One is a fair-haired bishonen type who becomes obsessed with annihilating the (also rather cocky) protagonist in one of the food-making contests they have to succeed at to avoid being summarily expelled from the ultra-competitive school. His brother is dark-haired, several inches taller, and conspicuously beefier in build, but cheerfully does whatever his more high-strung, trash-talking twin suggests, seldom uttering more than a sentence or two at a time himself. By the end of the story arc both of them are more or less friends, or at least frenemies, with the protagonist, although the fair-haired one still has something of a "he's the rival I'm determined to beat!" chip on his shoulder about the protagonist.
27th-May-2015 06:13 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions! We'll keep those on the list! We actually started watching Food Wars, but the depictions of tasting food were a little too graphic...and there was only one of our favorite voice actors, so we let ourselves get distracted and stopped watching.
27th-May-2015 11:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the orgasmic reactions to the food are a bit much even in the manga. (I haven't seen the anime.) I can only imagine how weird it must be to see and hear those sequences animated.
28th-May-2015 10:03 pm (UTC)
27th-May-2015 02:26 am (UTC)
For manga: available in English so you probably read most of them
- Arisa by Natsumi Ando (Arisa and Tsubasa)
- Cipher by Minako Narita (the twins pretended to be one person)
- Fushigi Yugi and Fushigi Yugi: Genbu Kaiden by Yuu Watase
- Bride's story by Kaoru Mori - there are a few chapters in volumes 4 and 5 when they are main characters.
- The Twin Knights by Osamu Tezuka

available in japanese and french
- Liselotte to Majo no Mori by Natsuki Takaya
- Love So Life by Kaede Kouchi - the 2 kids are twins.

Young adult fictions: maybe you've read some of these?
- Charlie Bones series by Jenny Nimmo - fantasy, Idith and Inez Branko. I can't remember which book they are in unfortunately.
- Ulysses Moore series by Pierdomenico Baccalario - the main characters are twins (a boy and a girl)
- Anne of Avonlea by Lucy Maud Montgomery, Davey and Dora Keith, adopted by Marilla

Hope they help.
27th-May-2015 06:15 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions! We actually have only read Fushigi Yuugi and Liselotte--if a manga's available in English and we don't translate it, chances are we haven't read it (unless it's the basis of an anime we really like). Anyway, we're adding them to the list! You wouldn't happen to have any TV show recommendations, would you?
27th-May-2015 07:23 pm (UTC)
I haven't watched TV for a long time.
- I like The Parent Trap, both version 1961 with Hayley Mills and 1998 with Lindsay Lohan - it may be interesting to compare how times changed and how characters are portrayed.
- Does Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers count?
- Alice in Wonderland - Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

I just remember a couple more manga:
- Papillon by Miwa UEDA - unfornately - only 6 volumes were published by Del Rey - complete in Japanese with 8 volumes in total.
- So Cute It Hurts!! by Go IKEYAMADA. volume 1 comes out next week.
- Mint na Bokura by Wataru YOSHIZUMI, I read it in French, I'm not sure about the availability of the Japanese tankobon. It's a fun read - since the brother crossed-dressed.
28th-May-2015 10:04 pm (UTC)
Oh of course, the Parent Trap! That's already on the list of things to watch, but only the original. I guess it wouldn't hurt us to see the remake...

Thanks for the other recs!
28th-May-2015 10:26 pm (UTC)
I don't know if this is available on Netflix or anywhere else, but the old 1960's "Patty Duke Show" was about so-called "identical twin cousins." Their fathers were identical twins, and when Cathy (Patty Duke with the ends of her hair turned under and a surprisingly good fake British accent), who'd been raised in London, was sent back to the U.S. by her international journalist father to live with her Uncle Martin and his family, she and her cousin Patty (Patty Duke with the ends of her hair flipped up and her regular American accent) discovered that they looked exactly alike, except for those minor hairstyle and accent details. The two girls quickly became adept at impersonating each other, at least superficially, and many episodes involved them switching places, despite Cathy's more reserved and "proper" personality. This sometimes led her to commit what should have been dead-giveaway mistakes like addressing Patty's boyfriend Richie as "Richard" while she was pretending to be Patty. Fortunately, Richie was such a dope it never occurred to him that this was incriminatingly weird.

As for the identical dads (both played by William Windom), I'm not sure Cathy's father ever actually appeared on the show except in photographs or possibly flashbacks. I certainly don't recall any episodes where they used special effects to show both brothers in the same room talking to each other, as routinely happened with Patty and Cathy.
29th-May-2015 09:46 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, we used to see that show when we were kids and it was on syndication. We'll have to add it to the list.
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